My 16.5 (in detriment 🤓) is ‘nodding’ over here 🤭
Ironically also in my P Venus (conscious ‘values’) …. seriously not wired for the “love and light” and “be kind” conditioning 😅
It’s interesting to read here that Ra ties it all to personal talent. I suppose it’s true (hahahaha not meaning to model it but, ya know - no choice) … but also, the general sharing of enthusiasm, or rather the ability to excuse myself from it and give others a heads up that that’s what’s up - has been a great addition to my life (I say with as much enthusiasm as possible 😂).
TBH, this is one of my most appreciated emojis 🥳 … and when I use it, I really mean it 🙂
Watch this short reel first to follow along -
https://www.facebook.com/share/v/19bFV7o6oj/?mibextid=wwXIfr
From the line companion -
16.5 The Grinch
“When we come to the fifth line, we come to the line that gets projected on. The first line tells us the nature of a hexagram and the fifth line tells us how the world sees it.
This line is called The Grinch. That name comes from a children's book by Charles Dickens.
The Grinch is like Scrooge: they are not the kind of people that give easily. They are very tight in that sense.
The refusal to share in enthusiasm. In talent.
These people are being projected on that they are the ones that have the skills, that they are the ones that can get everybody else's depth out. It is always being projected on them.
"This one has the skills. I'll hook up with this one. I am able to get to the throat and get my stuff out."
Pluto exalted: The power to avoid enthusiasm for the sole purpose of being converted. As with Dickens' Scrooge, eventual conversion leads to greater and more enduring enthusiasm.
Here is somebody that has
skills but he/she is a fifth line and the outside world is saying, "Wow, you have all these skills." They
need to be told that over and over again. They usually answer with, "Maybe, I don't know."
The 16.5 can always recognize the skills in others. It is the resonance to the second line, to The Cynic. It has the capacity to distinguish who has skills and who doesn't.
The 16.5 waits until all that pressure comes and, only when others encourage them, are they going to have an opportunity to flower.
The people who are coming to encourage them are people who have the energy but no skills.
They have the energy and say, "This is the one that has the skills. Let me project on them that they are really the best."
In the white book: The lack of confidence in the expression of skills that needs the encouragement of others.
This is a lack of confidence because it is all projection. "I do not know if I am talented but all of
you are saying so. I don't have the energy myself and so I don't really know how talented I am. I don't really know how good my skills are. You keep on telling me that they are great, but I still don't know."
The lunar detriment is: The perverse feeling that sharing in enthusiasm hampers individual development.
"Why should I be happy when...?" this line asks. "Why should I make all of them happy and give all of
them talent when I still don't feel good myself? Why should I bother? This is only a projection."
This is the universalization of talent. One of the things that we expect from our artists is that, when they are complimented or asked about their art, they all play humble. This is the image of the fifth line.
"Yes, but there are others who are so much better. The music, the dance scene, the editing could have been better."
The nature of the collective logical process is deeply connected to our critical capacity to check it and perfect it and to work on it.
When you have a fifth line, somebody has to recognize your talent and project that on you in order for you to have the opportunity to respond to it. That is true for all fifth lines.
When the fifth line complains
that it does not get recognition, you can ask them if they recognize other people.
What is underneath here
is that the fifth line is concerned about finding whether they truly have the skill. They do not care whether others have it.
People can project onto my 51.5 that I am an initiator but, until I initiate somebody, it is nothing but a projection. The fifth line is taking in all this projection and it needs to see whether or not
that projection has a basis in reality.”
@Carizma22 3/5 splenic P, has said yes to sharing this 😍
I love it when I get to be privy to an ‘experiment progress report’ from one of our Locals members.
Wanna celebrate with me? 🥳🤩🙌🏽
This next one is a tale of Carole’s undefined solar plexus adventures, originally posted in a Projector fb group.
Cool witnessing Carole! 🤗
Thread gist in comments (screenshots) and a somewhat messy screen grab video of the video recommended in one of the OP comments she received included below (above?🤓)
And there’s a short video of @BeyondBeautiful and me first talking about “avoiding confront and truth” which includes a story I often have told about John and the very first real time glimpse I saw this undefined solar plexus dealie irl. Can find.
Blew my mind.
I know there are several splenic Authority folks in here, maybe you have stories to share too?
"Some ideas take decades"
This is pretty inspiring. She reckons she's finally finished her apprenticeship at 70 💜
Fun add-on HD irl example - this was shared in Vanessa's group on FB, The Art of Being You by another appreciative group member (thank you Kathrin 🤗), and I first watched it a few hours ago.
I immediately thought what a great share it would be in here 🤩 but it landed pretty quickly on my 'roundtooit list.
Maybe to get shared here, maybe not. Tbh, the hold up was that I didn't really want to share a FB link in here, so I was looking (investigating) around to see if it was on another platform.
Hadn't found it yet.
Then it turns out that @NaimR wasn't able to view it from Canada (someone is blocking it for Canada ? wha?) and she said as much on the thread in Vanessa's group.
And you know what kicks in?
My Design (19/49 and Markets internal in particular), which had me heading this way anyway - at some point ... maybe... but I always get a little boost of focus from ...
There were three roller coasters 🎢 we had on or radar for the last hour before the rides closed.
Wasn’t to be, but we did find this nice place to sit and wait out the deluge that started right after we grabbed a great smoked BBQ supper.
And ooh it cooled everything off perfectly. And gave us some rest before we found our way back to the car (which was parked on the very first row of priority parking 🥳)
Ahhhh nothing to do, so much nothing to do 🥳🥰🍿
This is a post and audio from @BeyondBeautiful - Valerie Montgomery, Self Projected Projector
"I wanted to make this breakfast and found myself rushing.
Now, you might be interested to know I have Alternating Determination, which means I need to do things “One Thing At A Time,” which turns out to be the title of the song I made up to shift the energy of starting to make this breakfast.
I also have an Undefined Root, so it always feels like I need to get rid of the pressure. Also known as feeling rushed to do things.
It would have been lovely to have my cat fix my breakfast, and I had the time, so..
Also being Self Projected my authority comes out through my speaking, or in this case, singing."
Great awareness and share, thank you Valerie! 💜Not sure that's the right title for this, but it's what came out so I'm rolling with it.
This story began in a FB group. Where many of my stories do.
I can't actually remember the thread or how we ended up in messenger, but the reason we did was because 5/1 Projector with Gate 1 on an undefined G center ... had music of hers to share but hasn't been able to share it so far.
Am still waiting to see if the rest of the story gets shared with me.
So she asked me what sort of music I liked and did I want something more abstract (I think it was) or a vocal cover. I chose vocal cover and she picked this one.
I felt it to my core.
Not sure if part of that was related to some of what she'd already (not intentionally) told me ... 5th line folks can take a lot of patience to draw out - that's been my experience so far anyway.
Some feel interesting enough to spend the energy on :) That's true here.
A kind of sidenote to this is that both my Uranus Opposition (40ish yo) and Chiron (50ish yo) charts carry a 3/5 and it feels like, though I'm not a 5th line - I do sort of get ...
Annnnd another thing. I have guilt motivation my transference is hope. When I read this, the hope transference sprung into mind and I laughed way harder than perhaps your average Joe would have 🤣🤭
Had to go see which gates are my 2nd lines - I only have 4 🤔
Conscious - Mars 32.2, Pluto 46.2
Unconscious- Mercury 19.2 (detriment), Uranus 6.2
Could be interesting (for me) to read those in the Line Companion.
I can link that in the comments ao you can check yours out too if you’d like :)
“To be lost in the knowledge and think that the knowledge itself can help you, that’s not true. The knowledge is for living.
This is what the 2 is like. It's what they’re like; it’s what they're waiting for.
And everybody sees them and they see they could be this, they could be that and they have no idea unless it's the person that really sees what's there, who calls it out.
And then it’s magical, they’re transformed. They are something else.
I've seen this in people, I've seen this in musicians, and I’ve seen this. It’s just something else. And then you get to see it.
The gift particularly in the 2nd line body when that gift has been nurtured, because the body has to be trained, it has to be properly nurtured, wow, what ...
Words below from Vanessa Westley -
“𝐀𝐧𝐲𝐨𝐧𝐞 𝐰𝐢𝐭𝐡 𝐚 𝐝𝐞𝐟𝐢𝐧𝐞𝐝 𝐒𝐚𝐜𝐫𝐚𝐥 𝐜𝐞𝐧𝐭𝐫𝐞 𝐡𝐚𝐬 𝐚𝐧 𝐞𝐧𝐨𝐫𝐦𝐨𝐮𝐬 𝐩𝐨𝐰𝐞𝐫 𝐚𝐭 𝐭𝐡𝐞𝐢𝐫 𝐝𝐢𝐬𝐩𝐨𝐬𝐚𝐥.
Such power can either work generatively and creatively or it can become degenerative and destructive.
It all depends on that person's understanding of how their Sacral centre functions. Somebody with a defined Sacral centre can always be involved with activity, although this activity does not necessarily have anything to do with manifesting activity.
A defined Sacral generates a constant energy buzz in the body, and that humming energy has to go somewhere. It is often experienced as a restless motion like walking and not knowing where to go, or the need to just burn energy by moving along and being active.
It often generates the need to be involved in repetitive activity such as shuffling papers all day or ...
Yesterday, @mellijae shared a graphic from 64Keys and it reminded me that there's a hashtag in here for #theplanets
Here's a direct search link -
https://planetandrea.locals.com/?search=%23theplanets
If you're interested in planetary placements in your chart - those 11 posts are a great place to begin. :)
by Richard Rudd
"There is one big key to understanding Projectors, and it can only be found by looking at the bigger picture.
We know that statistically, Projectors make up 21% of the population. That means that for every five people, more or less, there is one Projector.
Those are interesting numbers, especially when they are considered within the context of how Gene Pools operate.
There is a mysterious circuit within the Bodygraph that is curiously known as the WA. The WA holds the secret to the choreography of all human gene pools.
One day, when these aspects of Human Design are explored in more depth, we will be able to see how groupings of individual designs come together in the same way as cells bind together to create the organs within our bodies.
For those who baulk at the idea that we have no choice, this is frightening stuff.
The WA shows how different human designs are collectively organised and herded together to perform certain functions within the greater body of humanity.
Imagine then, that humanity is a body like your own body. There are only 4 types of cells, each with their own sub-programming.
At one extreme, you have a small amount of ‘rogue’ cells, independent bodies that are designed to operate outside the loop of the mainframe programming. Ironically however, these manifestor cells are just as dependent upon the whole as any other type. They are simply programmed to appear independent.
At the other extreme, you have a tiny percentage of early-warning cells – these unusual cells have no programming of their own but are designed to take accurate readings of any cellular environment they move through.
In every sub-culture you will find a few of these cells reflecting the health of the local environment. Their role is to warn the overall intelligence of the body of any potential disruptions to the organism. They are called reflector cells.
The bulk of the cellular life of the body (91%) is made up of the two most common kinds of cell – generator cells and projector cells.
These 2 types are designed to interlock with each other. The generator cells collectively create the life of the organism. They are pure energy cells buzzing day and night, maintaining and building the whole.
Projector cells are unique. They have no propulsion of their own, so they drift around on the endless energy currents created by the generator cells.
You might imagine how easy it would be for a projector cell to feel that it had no purpose within the body.
However, each projector cell actually has a very specific purpose (some have more than one), but that purpose can only be realised when certain energy cells (generators) dock in with the projector cell to receive instructions.
Since the projector has no propulsion, it is powerless to initiate this process, but has to allow the generator cells to recognise them and dock in within their own timing. This recognition process takes place through a coded lock and key programme built into these 2 types at birth.
In other words, every projector holds multiple keys that fit an enormous array of locks. When a key does not fit a lock it is very obvious!
Through the knowledge of the WA, we know that the basic genetic unit is 5. These human groupings of mainly generators and projectors are also known as ‘Pentas’.
The nuclear family is a family of five.
Statistically, that is four generators and one projector. As an archetype, the role of this fifth projector is to maintain the stability of the 4 generators.
Right, this next part is where it gets spooky, so hang on to your seats and try and stay with me!…
Just as this fifth projector draws together the 4 generators to form a penta, this penta then takes on a life of its own. It also seeks something greater to dock into, and this is known as an OC16.
Pentas (groups of 5 human beings) seek out another projector, known as an alpha. Alpha projectors naturally dock together with three pentas, making 16 people (including the alpha).
The moment you have 16 people together, you actually have the foundation of an entire gene pool, which then continues to grow exponentially.
Right. I am going to stop there. Whether you were able to follow any of that or not, I am trying to make a point – which is that if you are a projector, you are genetically coded to have others (specifically generators) recognise you and approach you.
This is the foundation of the success of humanity as a species. The projector’s role is pivotal for life to be coherently organised.
But there is a great irony to it all for the projector – which is that there is nothing for them to do until they are recognised.
Every projector knows when the key fits. Every cell in their body lights up.
They also know when it only ‘sort of’ fits.
Those are the critical moments for projectors. If the fit is not perfect, they have to smile sweetly and turn away.
So how long does a projector have to wait? Well, forever.
There is a deep secret for projectors going through their deconditioning – that is, waiting itself transforms the cells.
The relief of not trying to make keys fit when they do not want to fit, releases a huge pressure from the projector’s life.
But it is also clear from my own experience of observing projectors that they are not always able to immediately throw away keys that do not fit.
Sometimes those keys may provide their livelihood, and they have to hold on to them until they find the correct keys to replace them. That takes courage – to wait knowing something is wrong and you are powerless to change it.
I have a vast admiration for any projector going through their deconditioning, and I have also learned that I can never move forward in life without the presence of projectors in key roles around me.
Projectors, if you cannot be patient, there is no hope for any of us…"
This is a little outside of my 'care' zone, but can see the things we've trusted faltering.
I think Human Design is here to offer people awareness to be able to weather what would otherwise feel like impossibly stormy times.
Lucky us 🤗
Also, what a cool picture Chaitanya found 😍
- A
"The knowledge was given so that human beings could be equipped to live in an age in which there was nothing they could trust.
This is what the Cross of Planning has brought us. It’s brought us an age of, within reason, trust.
That the trains will run on time, that the electricity will be there, that all of those things will work, that our children will have teachers in their schools, that the garbage will be picked up and on and on and on.
All the things that the Cross of Planning has brought us, the institutionalization of science and the spreading of all kinds of technologies that enhance the potential for the increase in human population, the increase in the potential of the gene pool, the increase in the potential for the unusual, the mutative.
Human Design is not about the time of the Cross of Planning. Human Design knows the plan. It’s not about that at all. It's about bringing the possibility of the richness of life to the next generation.
If the stellar family teaches us anything it’s that even the gods, even the remotest forces in the stream are concerned about the generations and the movement of information.
There are certain stars in the sky that could not exist until other stars had died. The fact that human beings and certain brain functions, elements in our brain, that can only exist after the death of stars, we are so deeply connected to them. We live very close to one. That is our shelter and our light."
- Ra Uru Hu
