I think this is a topic I’ve not dropped in here before.
Doing it now more for documentation and potential future reference, not for the conversation necessarily. Unless you want to comment, which would be fine.
You probably already know, I have 3 kids. Can’t imagine life without them 🤷🏻♀️
The first 2 (G and MG) were completely unintended - 8 years apart. Number three was not - he’s a self projected P.
John and I do have 59/6 together. A relationship that in hindsight we entered into correctly, which I think has been important.
Dumb luck really, or so my Mind would tell me. We met when we were 26 and 30. The kids were born when I was 26, 34 and 39.
The most horrifying part of that for me was when I realized that also meant that I’d signed up for 26 consecutive years of dealing with the school system 🤦🏻♀️
[Unschooling life to the rescue. MY rescue, worked out for everyone else too I think 🤔🤷🏻♀️]
Neither of us had any previous pregnancies. And I think we sort of believed we couldn’t 🙃.
My Mind is also horrified at what having children with anyone who came before him might have been like. 👀
Design mechanics seems to fit in our case.
Life flows in a no choice way either way. Downstream from decisions. All we have available to us (once the awareness is there) is recognition.
And popcorn.
The reason this comes up today is this 2yo thread - closed today because someone commented and revived it.
https://www.facebook.com/groups/projectors.human.design/permalink/10159797576649224/?mibextid=W9rl1R
Has some comments that might be great reading should this be something of interest to you.
I’m pretty much past it, except for when it comes up in 1-on-1 guidance, which it sometimes does :)
We get the life we get through the decisions that we make, whether with our Mind, or with our body (Inner Authority) - it is what it is.
I think this passage causes Minds to spin out. Projectors have pregnancies happening and not every day - it’s okay. ✅
These are our 3 on Christmas morning last Monday (and a couple boyfriends oh wait, one is a son in law now…)
What would life have been like without them?
Different. Just different. Okay, very different.
But better? worse? … nah.
Somewhere I came to have this saying in my lexicon:
“If things were different, they wouldn’t be the same”
🤷🏻♀️
Now here’s the post -
For projector females who have biological children: how old were you when you had your children?
EDIT:
Does what Ra say about projectors and fertility resonate with you? Has it affected you or your child's health negatively?
Transcript of Ra -
"Sometimes I get to places that even I find a little bizarre. When I look at the projector in terms of sexuality, оne of the things that I know about the projector is that, and I have to be very careful the way I say this, okay....
If we could get to a place where everybody was living out their nature and the hierarchy had its proper order, Projectors would never give birth to children and would never make them. It's an odd thing, I know but it's true.
This is not what projectors are [fundamentally] about.
And of all of the types when you look at the projector they are the ones that are the furthest away from the reproductive nature of society, in fact if projectors were here basically the way it would work [if the world was correct, but it is not] is that projectors would come in, they do their job and they leave nothing behind. They’d leave no genetic material behind, nothing.
Now obviously that's not the way it works, they are in the deep conditioning of the Sacral field and the projector is very, very, very different from the reflector and the reflectors are different from everything else and they don't fall under the same guidelines.
But when you're dealing specifically with the projector it's very important to understand something - they are not generative.
They are not here by their very nature to bring life into the world, it is not their nature. It just isn't.
And yet, they can.
They can be conditioned to do so, they can be conditioned to be for be fertile by being in the aura of somebody that they should not be in the aura with [ie. not recognized].
And then they end up being reproductive.
Projectors are neither generative nor manifesting and every time they enter into any of those realms they suffer the consequences of that conditioning because it is not for them.
They are here to be recognized and recognize as guides and they're here to be rewarded with energy for being those guys.
Think about the sexuality then of a projector. That projector only has one way of knowing whether or not a relationship is valuable, after all, they have to be invited.
But after that everything is out of their control.
They're not going to be invited to this kind of sexuality or that kind of sexuality or whatever.
They're going to get into the relationship vibration, they're going to get into the generative or manifesting field that's there and they're going to be ruled by that field. It's not them.
You see they are not here at the deepest level to worry about what they bring into the world.
They're here at the deepest level to make sure the world keeps going.
And in a sense for projectors we’re all children.
You know, a projector looks out at the rest of the [world of] energy types and looks at them and says: ”boy do they need guidance, all these poor little children, boy they are lost, I better take them along and show them the way”.
Because that's the real children of the projector.
They see it in everyone because they see that the vast majority of energy types are just chaotic. Chaotic as lovers chaotic as friends chaotic as workers.
That's not an easy sex life if you don't enter into it clear. That's not an easy intimacy of you don't enter into it clear and just isn't, it can be very painful and remember that the projector can't get out so easy.
They're not manifestor that slams the door they're not generators waiting for the response to run out.
So many projectors I know we'll stay in a relationship until it's obvious they're being invited to go. This is the way it works and you have to understand it's [supposed to be] the other way around.
See the job of the projector is to be able to say: “there's the door take it”.
They're the ones that are here to guide us to point the way, they're the only ones who can tell us where to go not what to do. Where to go.
To keep all the traffic moving to keep everything in harmony that's what they're here for.
So in their health and their sexuality in their intimacy you can see the projectors have a really hard time. They have a hard time fitting into that world.
And because they don't have the ongoing generative for manifesting capacity to operate in the strategy moment by moment to get out of it it's not easy.
If they make a mistake that mistake can haunt them for decades. Decades.
Because you see they need the link, they need the energy. They can't be without it. Nobody puts up with more abuse in this life than projectors nobody.
They put up with enormous abuse, they are taken advantage of by energy types, they are abused by energy types, they are kept in their place by energy.
And the projector just suffers its bitterness alone. “Nobody sees me, nobody appreciates me.” It's a pain that you can literally feel when you meet these beings.
It starts with the strategy.
You see, the invitation is recognition all it may not be the best invitation and there will be others, there's lots of them.
But you see there comes the recognition somebody is seeing you and as a projector to be seen there is nothing more beautiful and it's the great irony of projectors you always notice them.
You can't miss them, they always stand out in a crowd you can't miss them!
Everybody notices a projector, everybody!
And there's the projector inside: ‘will anybody notice me, anybody see me?’
Yeah, yeah…"
@Carizma22 3/5 splenic P, has said yes to sharing this 😍
I love it when I get to be privy to an ‘experiment progress report’ from one of our Locals members.
Wanna celebrate with me? 🥳🤩🙌🏽
This next one is a tale of Carole’s undefined solar plexus adventures, originally posted in a Projector fb group.
Cool witnessing Carole! 🤗
Thread gist in comments (screenshots) and a somewhat messy screen grab video of the video recommended in one of the OP comments she received included below (above?🤓)
And there’s a short video of @BeyondBeautiful and me first talking about “avoiding confront and truth” which includes a story I often have told about John and the very first real time glimpse I saw this undefined solar plexus dealie irl. Can find.
Blew my mind.
I know there are several splenic Authority folks in here, maybe you have stories to share too?
"Some ideas take decades"
This is pretty inspiring. She reckons she's finally finished her apprenticeship at 70 💜
Fun add-on HD irl example - this was shared in Vanessa's group on FB, The Art of Being You by another appreciative group member (thank you Kathrin 🤗), and I first watched it a few hours ago.
I immediately thought what a great share it would be in here 🤩 but it landed pretty quickly on my 'roundtooit list.
Maybe to get shared here, maybe not. Tbh, the hold up was that I didn't really want to share a FB link in here, so I was looking (investigating) around to see if it was on another platform.
Hadn't found it yet.
Then it turns out that @NaimR wasn't able to view it from Canada (someone is blocking it for Canada ? wha?) and she said as much on the thread in Vanessa's group.
And you know what kicks in?
My Design (19/49 and Markets internal in particular), which had me heading this way anyway - at some point ... maybe... but I always get a little boost of focus from ...
There were three roller coasters 🎢 we had on or radar for the last hour before the rides closed.
Wasn’t to be, but we did find this nice place to sit and wait out the deluge that started right after we grabbed a great smoked BBQ supper.
And ooh it cooled everything off perfectly. And gave us some rest before we found our way back to the car (which was parked on the very first row of priority parking 🥳)
Ahhhh nothing to do, so much nothing to do 🥳🥰🍿
This is a post and audio from @BeyondBeautiful - Valerie Montgomery, Self Projected Projector
"I wanted to make this breakfast and found myself rushing.
Now, you might be interested to know I have Alternating Determination, which means I need to do things “One Thing At A Time,” which turns out to be the title of the song I made up to shift the energy of starting to make this breakfast.
I also have an Undefined Root, so it always feels like I need to get rid of the pressure. Also known as feeling rushed to do things.
It would have been lovely to have my cat fix my breakfast, and I had the time, so..
Also being Self Projected my authority comes out through my speaking, or in this case, singing."
Great awareness and share, thank you Valerie! 💜Not sure that's the right title for this, but it's what came out so I'm rolling with it.
This story began in a FB group. Where many of my stories do.
I can't actually remember the thread or how we ended up in messenger, but the reason we did was because 5/1 Projector with Gate 1 on an undefined G center ... had music of hers to share but hasn't been able to share it so far.
Am still waiting to see if the rest of the story gets shared with me.
So she asked me what sort of music I liked and did I want something more abstract (I think it was) or a vocal cover. I chose vocal cover and she picked this one.
I felt it to my core.
Not sure if part of that was related to some of what she'd already (not intentionally) told me ... 5th line folks can take a lot of patience to draw out - that's been my experience so far anyway.
Some feel interesting enough to spend the energy on :) That's true here.
A kind of sidenote to this is that both my Uranus Opposition (40ish yo) and Chiron (50ish yo) charts carry a 3/5 and it feels like, though I'm not a 5th line - I do sort of get ...
Dave Myers
https://www.facebook.com/share/v/1HyKBE9tpm/?mibextid=wwXIfr
Here he is over on TikTok
https://www.tiktok.com/@neutrinoradio?_t=ZT-8u1npsHczms&_r=1
Yesterday, @mellijae shared a graphic from 64Keys and it reminded me that there's a hashtag in here for #theplanets
Here's a direct search link -
https://planetandrea.locals.com/?search=%23theplanets
If you're interested in planetary placements in your chart - those 11 posts are a great place to begin. :)
by Richard Rudd
"There is one big key to understanding Projectors, and it can only be found by looking at the bigger picture.
We know that statistically, Projectors make up 21% of the population. That means that for every five people, more or less, there is one Projector.
Those are interesting numbers, especially when they are considered within the context of how Gene Pools operate.
There is a mysterious circuit within the Bodygraph that is curiously known as the WA. The WA holds the secret to the choreography of all human gene pools.
One day, when these aspects of Human Design are explored in more depth, we will be able to see how groupings of individual designs come together in the same way as cells bind together to create the organs within our bodies.
For those who baulk at the idea that we have no choice, this is frightening stuff.
The WA shows how different human designs are collectively organised and herded together to perform certain functions within the greater body of humanity.
Imagine then, that humanity is a body like your own body. There are only 4 types of cells, each with their own sub-programming.
At one extreme, you have a small amount of ‘rogue’ cells, independent bodies that are designed to operate outside the loop of the mainframe programming. Ironically however, these manifestor cells are just as dependent upon the whole as any other type. They are simply programmed to appear independent.
At the other extreme, you have a tiny percentage of early-warning cells – these unusual cells have no programming of their own but are designed to take accurate readings of any cellular environment they move through.
In every sub-culture you will find a few of these cells reflecting the health of the local environment. Their role is to warn the overall intelligence of the body of any potential disruptions to the organism. They are called reflector cells.
The bulk of the cellular life of the body (91%) is made up of the two most common kinds of cell – generator cells and projector cells.
These 2 types are designed to interlock with each other. The generator cells collectively create the life of the organism. They are pure energy cells buzzing day and night, maintaining and building the whole.
Projector cells are unique. They have no propulsion of their own, so they drift around on the endless energy currents created by the generator cells.
You might imagine how easy it would be for a projector cell to feel that it had no purpose within the body.
However, each projector cell actually has a very specific purpose (some have more than one), but that purpose can only be realised when certain energy cells (generators) dock in with the projector cell to receive instructions.
Since the projector has no propulsion, it is powerless to initiate this process, but has to allow the generator cells to recognise them and dock in within their own timing. This recognition process takes place through a coded lock and key programme built into these 2 types at birth.
In other words, every projector holds multiple keys that fit an enormous array of locks. When a key does not fit a lock it is very obvious!
Through the knowledge of the WA, we know that the basic genetic unit is 5. These human groupings of mainly generators and projectors are also known as ‘Pentas’.
The nuclear family is a family of five.
Statistically, that is four generators and one projector. As an archetype, the role of this fifth projector is to maintain the stability of the 4 generators.
Right, this next part is where it gets spooky, so hang on to your seats and try and stay with me!…
Just as this fifth projector draws together the 4 generators to form a penta, this penta then takes on a life of its own. It also seeks something greater to dock into, and this is known as an OC16.
Pentas (groups of 5 human beings) seek out another projector, known as an alpha. Alpha projectors naturally dock together with three pentas, making 16 people (including the alpha).
The moment you have 16 people together, you actually have the foundation of an entire gene pool, which then continues to grow exponentially.
Right. I am going to stop there. Whether you were able to follow any of that or not, I am trying to make a point – which is that if you are a projector, you are genetically coded to have others (specifically generators) recognise you and approach you.
This is the foundation of the success of humanity as a species. The projector’s role is pivotal for life to be coherently organised.
But there is a great irony to it all for the projector – which is that there is nothing for them to do until they are recognised.
Every projector knows when the key fits. Every cell in their body lights up.
They also know when it only ‘sort of’ fits.
Those are the critical moments for projectors. If the fit is not perfect, they have to smile sweetly and turn away.
So how long does a projector have to wait? Well, forever.
There is a deep secret for projectors going through their deconditioning – that is, waiting itself transforms the cells.
The relief of not trying to make keys fit when they do not want to fit, releases a huge pressure from the projector’s life.
But it is also clear from my own experience of observing projectors that they are not always able to immediately throw away keys that do not fit.
Sometimes those keys may provide their livelihood, and they have to hold on to them until they find the correct keys to replace them. That takes courage – to wait knowing something is wrong and you are powerless to change it.
I have a vast admiration for any projector going through their deconditioning, and I have also learned that I can never move forward in life without the presence of projectors in key roles around me.
Projectors, if you cannot be patient, there is no hope for any of us…"
This is a little outside of my 'care' zone, but can see the things we've trusted faltering.
I think Human Design is here to offer people awareness to be able to weather what would otherwise feel like impossibly stormy times.
Lucky us 🤗
Also, what a cool picture Chaitanya found 😍
- A
"The knowledge was given so that human beings could be equipped to live in an age in which there was nothing they could trust.
This is what the Cross of Planning has brought us. It’s brought us an age of, within reason, trust.
That the trains will run on time, that the electricity will be there, that all of those things will work, that our children will have teachers in their schools, that the garbage will be picked up and on and on and on.
All the things that the Cross of Planning has brought us, the institutionalization of science and the spreading of all kinds of technologies that enhance the potential for the increase in human population, the increase in the potential of the gene pool, the increase in the potential for the unusual, the mutative.
Human Design is not about the time of the Cross of Planning. Human Design knows the plan. It’s not about that at all. It's about bringing the possibility of the richness of life to the next generation.
If the stellar family teaches us anything it’s that even the gods, even the remotest forces in the stream are concerned about the generations and the movement of information.
There are certain stars in the sky that could not exist until other stars had died. The fact that human beings and certain brain functions, elements in our brain, that can only exist after the death of stars, we are so deeply connected to them. We live very close to one. That is our shelter and our light."
- Ra Uru Hu
