Perhaps you already know this. But I am no astrologer.
I arrived to Human Design - unexpectedly - not seeking anything in particular. I’ve never been a “seeker” … only an investigator.
An investigator who happened to bump into Human Design (1/3 profile occupational hazard it turns out) - and get thrown head first down the rabbit hole 😆
So running into all these seekers and astrological contemplation folks who can tend to overlap with HD - was weird and new and unfamiliar.
Took some time to understand why they were so tied up in knots and, frankly, seemed to be way over complicating things.
Over complicating things when HD already had plenty of weird details and since I was meeting the HD details first, obviously (to me) the more accurate.
Now just a side note about accuracy - the accuracy Ra is pointing to here is the inclusion of the Red (unconscious) calculations in Human Design.
Astrology is only looking at the Black. The conscious. So there’s data missing (the body side of the data).
And in addition to that, as he is railing on about in this passage, it also matters whether any given gate is in a defined center or not.
My personal beef (it’s not a beef really, I just find the astrology track first people to have this much in common - maybe has attracted a certain sort of person) is that Astrology is used “predictively” - meaning people trying to see their future - looking for the truth vs the ‘mission’ of HD being to Live as Yourself, which is the truth. The truth of you.
Hmm truth is such a dicey and provocative word 🤔 - especially these days - maybe important to know that I don’t use it lightly. I even winced as I typed it lol 😂
Bottomline, from what I’ve seen, the two can’t go together efficiently.
The other thing I’ve seen is that the people who hail from an astrology background have a much harder time with their HD experiment.
They seem to stay confused longer. Have identified with something that they can’t let go of easily.
But I find that I wonder if that isn’t as much to do with the type of person who leans in the seeker direction in the first place. People wanting Future certainty.
There’s some kind of pattern there.
One that’s fairly uninteresting to me personally - because to me they feel stuck.
Distracted from their actual Design - that they’re delaying living while they cling to this incomplete data thing.
And they can tend to get quite defensive when this thing is challenged.
None of them are asking for guidance out of that fog 😜
So I leave them alone. 🥳
………
[Quote of the day via Koen]
Astrology Can Only Be Accurate Sometimes
Student: Some people say that Progressions…(laughter) Or isn’t there a good one?
Ra: I have friends who are really good astrologers and I drive them crazy. I make them very depressed. I’ve seen progressions. I’ve had progressions done for me. I’ve watched them go through all of that process. The underlying nature of astrology is that it cannot possibly be accurate. It is not possible. Anybody who knows their design knows that. You all have planets in dormant gates.
If an astrologer says to you—just dealing with personality activations—that your personality Mercury in Sagittarius means this that and the other, if that personality Mercury is in a gate, and it’s dormant, and it’s in an undefined center, that aspect that’s given to you by the astrologer is not true. It’s sometimes true, but it’s not true. It’s not consistently true. Now, of course, there are all kinds of astrologers that are going to read your personality chart, and they’re going to read your personality and what they’re reading are many, many aspects that are dormant, that have nothing to do with who you are, that has nothing to do with who you are consistently.
So at the base of astrology is inaccuracy. The fact that astrologers have invented house systems and progressions and all this stuff, it doesn’t impress me. Now, I go back to the simple, and the simple says, “It’s obvious and evident that astrology can only be accurate sometimes, and can never be accurate all the time.” So I’m not going to put any credence into anything that astrology presents as a more sophisticated way of looking at this or that. I find that the more astrological knowledge you have, the more confusing it is. And the more things you know about astrology and can say, the more difficult it is to understand what the hell anybody’s talking about.
I have a famous Vedic sannyasin astrologer staying in my house right now. When he gets into astrological babble-speak, I just kind of look at him and I watch him, and then he’s talking about himself, and then I’ll say to him, “Where is that in your chart?” And then he’ll look at it and see that it’s in an undefined center, and I say, “You’re full of shit; you’re a lousy astrologer. You don’t know nothing man.”
I’ve made him so depressed he wants to study Human Design now. This is a joke. So, yeah, what I do in situations like that where I take it seriously in the sense that it’s a legitimate, honest question of the moment, is that I just point out to them that basic inaccuracy. If your personality Sun is in a center in a gate, the center’s undefined, the gate is dormant, an astrologer telling you that you’re a Taurus or a this or a that is a joke. You only become that thing when somebody hooks up that center. And you may have a relationship in your life where your partner never hooks it up. Can you imagine?
And the astrologer’s telling you you’re a Taurus and this is the way you do things, and that doesn’t come out. That Sun is locked behind a closed door somewhere. And then your partner, who knows nothing about astrology, reads the description of Taurus and says, “Ah, astrology’s full of shit, he’s not like that.” Because she didn’t bring it out, or he didn’t bring it out of the other. So this is a basic thing about comparing things to Human Design.
The most astonishing thing about Human Design is how accurate it is. You do get to see. I respect the astrologer’s knowledge, the recognition, the revelation of the impact of planets on our lives, what planets mean. I have respect for aspects, but only if they actually function.
One of the people that deeply impressed me in Europe is a man by the name of Döbereiner. He’s one of the greatest astrologers, living astrologers, in the world. He specializes in medical astrology, and on many occasions over the years where we’ve been able to sit together, and of course to be able to see the depth of aspects the way he can, what he knows about a relationship between planets is incredible. But the accuracy of using that, he doesn’t have.
The moment you take that depth in the knowledge and you apply it to the matrix, you apply it to what Human Design is, which is a non-dogmatic field. Projected Channels and Circuitry
And you put it through, and then you get to see whether that aspect is alive or not. If somebody looks at your astrological chart and you’ve got a Mars-Saturn in conjunction, they’re going to give you a whole story about it. But if it’s in an undefined center, it’s not consistent in your life. It’s not a major theme. It is for other people; every time they hook up that center they get it.
So, that’s not my business in this life to be argumentative in the sense of,—I could trash everything because of course I see it from its limited perspective. I see that the modern, revealed synthesis is going to be always much more accurate than any of the components that it’s synthesized out of. It’s just obvious. Astrology is one of those things where you can clearly point it out. After all, the revelation of Human Design has done more to substantiate the basis of astrology than anything ever. I like to think of the fact that I’ve honored astrology just before I kill it.
You know what I mean? “Yes, you were right, the planets do influence us, now drop dead, there’s something new. Because it’s not accurate and this is, eh? Have a nice day.” So welcome to a new day.”
#quoteoftheday
@Carizma22 3/5 splenic P, has said yes to sharing this 😍
I love it when I get to be privy to an ‘experiment progress report’ from one of our Locals members.
Wanna celebrate with me? 🥳🤩🙌🏽
This next one is a tale of Carole’s undefined solar plexus adventures, originally posted in a Projector fb group.
Cool witnessing Carole! 🤗
Thread gist in comments (screenshots) and a somewhat messy screen grab video of the video recommended in one of the OP comments she received included below (above?🤓)
And there’s a short video of @BeyondBeautiful and me first talking about “avoiding confront and truth” which includes a story I often have told about John and the very first real time glimpse I saw this undefined solar plexus dealie irl. Can find.
Blew my mind.
I know there are several splenic Authority folks in here, maybe you have stories to share too?
"Some ideas take decades"
This is pretty inspiring. She reckons she's finally finished her apprenticeship at 70 💜
Fun add-on HD irl example - this was shared in Vanessa's group on FB, The Art of Being You by another appreciative group member (thank you Kathrin 🤗), and I first watched it a few hours ago.
I immediately thought what a great share it would be in here 🤩 but it landed pretty quickly on my 'roundtooit list.
Maybe to get shared here, maybe not. Tbh, the hold up was that I didn't really want to share a FB link in here, so I was looking (investigating) around to see if it was on another platform.
Hadn't found it yet.
Then it turns out that @NaimR wasn't able to view it from Canada (someone is blocking it for Canada ? wha?) and she said as much on the thread in Vanessa's group.
And you know what kicks in?
My Design (19/49 and Markets internal in particular), which had me heading this way anyway - at some point ... maybe... but I always get a little boost of focus from ...
There were three roller coasters 🎢 we had on or radar for the last hour before the rides closed.
Wasn’t to be, but we did find this nice place to sit and wait out the deluge that started right after we grabbed a great smoked BBQ supper.
And ooh it cooled everything off perfectly. And gave us some rest before we found our way back to the car (which was parked on the very first row of priority parking 🥳)
Ahhhh nothing to do, so much nothing to do 🥳🥰🍿
This is a post and audio from @BeyondBeautiful - Valerie Montgomery, Self Projected Projector
"I wanted to make this breakfast and found myself rushing.
Now, you might be interested to know I have Alternating Determination, which means I need to do things “One Thing At A Time,” which turns out to be the title of the song I made up to shift the energy of starting to make this breakfast.
I also have an Undefined Root, so it always feels like I need to get rid of the pressure. Also known as feeling rushed to do things.
It would have been lovely to have my cat fix my breakfast, and I had the time, so..
Also being Self Projected my authority comes out through my speaking, or in this case, singing."
Great awareness and share, thank you Valerie! 💜Not sure that's the right title for this, but it's what came out so I'm rolling with it.
This story began in a FB group. Where many of my stories do.
I can't actually remember the thread or how we ended up in messenger, but the reason we did was because 5/1 Projector with Gate 1 on an undefined G center ... had music of hers to share but hasn't been able to share it so far.
Am still waiting to see if the rest of the story gets shared with me.
So she asked me what sort of music I liked and did I want something more abstract (I think it was) or a vocal cover. I chose vocal cover and she picked this one.
I felt it to my core.
Not sure if part of that was related to some of what she'd already (not intentionally) told me ... 5th line folks can take a lot of patience to draw out - that's been my experience so far anyway.
Some feel interesting enough to spend the energy on :) That's true here.
A kind of sidenote to this is that both my Uranus Opposition (40ish yo) and Chiron (50ish yo) charts carry a 3/5 and it feels like, though I'm not a 5th line - I do sort of get ...
Dave Myers
https://www.facebook.com/share/v/1HyKBE9tpm/?mibextid=wwXIfr
Here he is over on TikTok
https://www.tiktok.com/@neutrinoradio?_t=ZT-8u1npsHczms&_r=1
Yesterday, @mellijae shared a graphic from 64Keys and it reminded me that there's a hashtag in here for #theplanets
Here's a direct search link -
https://planetandrea.locals.com/?search=%23theplanets
If you're interested in planetary placements in your chart - those 11 posts are a great place to begin. :)
by Richard Rudd
"There is one big key to understanding Projectors, and it can only be found by looking at the bigger picture.
We know that statistically, Projectors make up 21% of the population. That means that for every five people, more or less, there is one Projector.
Those are interesting numbers, especially when they are considered within the context of how Gene Pools operate.
There is a mysterious circuit within the Bodygraph that is curiously known as the WA. The WA holds the secret to the choreography of all human gene pools.
One day, when these aspects of Human Design are explored in more depth, we will be able to see how groupings of individual designs come together in the same way as cells bind together to create the organs within our bodies.
For those who baulk at the idea that we have no choice, this is frightening stuff.
The WA shows how different human designs are collectively organised and herded together to perform certain functions within the greater body of humanity.
Imagine then, that humanity is a body like your own body. There are only 4 types of cells, each with their own sub-programming.
At one extreme, you have a small amount of ‘rogue’ cells, independent bodies that are designed to operate outside the loop of the mainframe programming. Ironically however, these manifestor cells are just as dependent upon the whole as any other type. They are simply programmed to appear independent.
At the other extreme, you have a tiny percentage of early-warning cells – these unusual cells have no programming of their own but are designed to take accurate readings of any cellular environment they move through.
In every sub-culture you will find a few of these cells reflecting the health of the local environment. Their role is to warn the overall intelligence of the body of any potential disruptions to the organism. They are called reflector cells.
The bulk of the cellular life of the body (91%) is made up of the two most common kinds of cell – generator cells and projector cells.
These 2 types are designed to interlock with each other. The generator cells collectively create the life of the organism. They are pure energy cells buzzing day and night, maintaining and building the whole.
Projector cells are unique. They have no propulsion of their own, so they drift around on the endless energy currents created by the generator cells.
You might imagine how easy it would be for a projector cell to feel that it had no purpose within the body.
However, each projector cell actually has a very specific purpose (some have more than one), but that purpose can only be realised when certain energy cells (generators) dock in with the projector cell to receive instructions.
Since the projector has no propulsion, it is powerless to initiate this process, but has to allow the generator cells to recognise them and dock in within their own timing. This recognition process takes place through a coded lock and key programme built into these 2 types at birth.
In other words, every projector holds multiple keys that fit an enormous array of locks. When a key does not fit a lock it is very obvious!
Through the knowledge of the WA, we know that the basic genetic unit is 5. These human groupings of mainly generators and projectors are also known as ‘Pentas’.
The nuclear family is a family of five.
Statistically, that is four generators and one projector. As an archetype, the role of this fifth projector is to maintain the stability of the 4 generators.
Right, this next part is where it gets spooky, so hang on to your seats and try and stay with me!…
Just as this fifth projector draws together the 4 generators to form a penta, this penta then takes on a life of its own. It also seeks something greater to dock into, and this is known as an OC16.
Pentas (groups of 5 human beings) seek out another projector, known as an alpha. Alpha projectors naturally dock together with three pentas, making 16 people (including the alpha).
The moment you have 16 people together, you actually have the foundation of an entire gene pool, which then continues to grow exponentially.
Right. I am going to stop there. Whether you were able to follow any of that or not, I am trying to make a point – which is that if you are a projector, you are genetically coded to have others (specifically generators) recognise you and approach you.
This is the foundation of the success of humanity as a species. The projector’s role is pivotal for life to be coherently organised.
But there is a great irony to it all for the projector – which is that there is nothing for them to do until they are recognised.
Every projector knows when the key fits. Every cell in their body lights up.
They also know when it only ‘sort of’ fits.
Those are the critical moments for projectors. If the fit is not perfect, they have to smile sweetly and turn away.
So how long does a projector have to wait? Well, forever.
There is a deep secret for projectors going through their deconditioning – that is, waiting itself transforms the cells.
The relief of not trying to make keys fit when they do not want to fit, releases a huge pressure from the projector’s life.
But it is also clear from my own experience of observing projectors that they are not always able to immediately throw away keys that do not fit.
Sometimes those keys may provide their livelihood, and they have to hold on to them until they find the correct keys to replace them. That takes courage – to wait knowing something is wrong and you are powerless to change it.
I have a vast admiration for any projector going through their deconditioning, and I have also learned that I can never move forward in life without the presence of projectors in key roles around me.
Projectors, if you cannot be patient, there is no hope for any of us…"
This is a little outside of my 'care' zone, but can see the things we've trusted faltering.
I think Human Design is here to offer people awareness to be able to weather what would otherwise feel like impossibly stormy times.
Lucky us 🤗
Also, what a cool picture Chaitanya found 😍
- A
"The knowledge was given so that human beings could be equipped to live in an age in which there was nothing they could trust.
This is what the Cross of Planning has brought us. It’s brought us an age of, within reason, trust.
That the trains will run on time, that the electricity will be there, that all of those things will work, that our children will have teachers in their schools, that the garbage will be picked up and on and on and on.
All the things that the Cross of Planning has brought us, the institutionalization of science and the spreading of all kinds of technologies that enhance the potential for the increase in human population, the increase in the potential of the gene pool, the increase in the potential for the unusual, the mutative.
Human Design is not about the time of the Cross of Planning. Human Design knows the plan. It’s not about that at all. It's about bringing the possibility of the richness of life to the next generation.
If the stellar family teaches us anything it’s that even the gods, even the remotest forces in the stream are concerned about the generations and the movement of information.
There are certain stars in the sky that could not exist until other stars had died. The fact that human beings and certain brain functions, elements in our brain, that can only exist after the death of stars, we are so deeply connected to them. We live very close to one. That is our shelter and our light."
- Ra Uru Hu
