Any Gate 24’s among us?
I have it activated, hanging on a defined Ajna, pointing at a gate-free Head center.
Heads up re. this transcription of Ra below - it’s a bit garbled and I am hesitant to add my interpretation notes into it ‘cause I can’t quite make sense in places (talk about the “unknowable” lol - the joke will make sense in a minute)
Definitely some recognition in this for me though - especially the part about not caring how something works - I’ve said this in many a 1:1 session about different parts of HD, and possibly points to why I haven’t had practically any interest in what might be called “the mechanics of the mechanics” of HD.
Like when someone asks me “what’s the Design date about”, or wants to know more about the crystals - there’s very little in the files in my head to offer …. heck, I’ve never even listened to the Voice origin story thing - the way it was produced on Video - offends my listening ears lol (I recall there being this underlying music/noise track that made it intolerable - turns out Sound is my PHS transference 🤷🏻♀️), but also - it’s a big area of uninteresting … much like any explanation of how the Universe began.
And I’m talking ALL of the explanations of the Universe beginning. I just don’t care 🤷🏻♀️
There’s no way to actually know - and this Gate 24, it seems, could get lost there, so I guess it’s just as well I’m not hooked in that way.
It is in my Nodes though - which I just started reading about - and that might indicate it’s less about me and more about the environment I’m swimming in.
And this I do find this to be true - here after Kiron, (really it started about 5 years earlier, so around 45 maybe?) I suddenly found myself bumping into an awful lot of seekers. With HD as the portal - for sure.
And I’m talking people who’ve been seeking all their lives. This has definitely been new territory. I have never considered myself a seeker.
You may recall, or maybe this is the first you hear this, HD bumped into me. I wasn’t looking for it.
It’s just a rabbit hole in hindsight I can recognize that someone I was already recognizing sent me down, unintentionally.
I understood the possibilities and potential it had right away. Didn’t care how the thing had come to be or who this weird named fellow was or how he was able to share what he had shared.
I literally remember thinking - ooh, this could really help me guide people better, more efficiently.
That’s it. That was the whole driver.
And basically that’s all still true - am still not a seeker. And it’s still only interesting because it helps me to be efficient in guiding and communicating with people.
With the big fat cherry on top being - the efficiency refinement of being able to see what and who is/isn’t me or for me.
Coming up on the end of my year 9 👀
July 15, begins year 10 of this unintended, yet unavoidable Human Design experiment.
My mind wants to mess with me about that a bit lately. And maybe this Gate 24 is part of that.
May have to investigate a bit further.
I guess let’s see what happens next. :)
Koen’s Ra Quote of the day
“The whole thing about the 24 gate is that the 24 gate is called the Return and the return is one of the four ways. The 19, the 33, the 44 and the 24. The 24 is opposite the 44, just as the 19 is opposite the 33, these are these two crosses of the four different ways. So the 24 has a specific function in that it is the only one of the ways that is in the mind and it is the only one of the ways that belongs to the mind and as such it is very significant for us. In other words, we know from the four ways that there are four basic pathways, the pathway of need (19), and the path of reflection that is in the 33 and the path of transmission that’s in the 44 and the path of thinking and this is the 24.
The 24 is the gate of the thinker, that’s why it’s called the return. It’s called the return because you keep on going back again, over and over and over you keep returning to the same place to ponder. Now, thinking is not necessarily something that is concretized or even deeply conceptualized because thinking is acoustic and a great deal of the 24 and its thinking process is made up of what psychologists used to call a brown study. A brown study is what you do when you sit with unfocused eyes, that is you are seeing but not seeing, there is nothing going on inside of your head, you’re just kind of lost in a pondering plane and you’re not necessarily thinking about anything.
You catch any 24 in a moment like that and you say that them “penny for your thought, what are you thinking” and they look at you as if to say “what are you talking about”, what do you think I was doing here, I was just buzzing. They are not really present in that pondering because that pondering, that thinking isn’t the way we try to describe it collectively. See, the collective would like to consider itself thinkers and they are not. You know, thinking is something that requires no thought!! You know, this is just the tonal pressure that is underneath so this 24 gate of the return is called the gate of rationalization.
This is the beginning of the process of explanation. Because again, you are dealing with something that is unique and therefore the first step is to try to find some way to make it rational in the same way that the abstract needs to make sense out of that pressure and the logic needs to formulize that pressure, the individual has to rationalize. It’s one of the common plagues of the mind that we have these formulizers, realizers and rationalizers. And they’re the field upon which the whole mental world is being examined. Knowing has three rules. Only three rules. The first one is that you have to know what you need to know: my-story, the mystery, who am I, why am I the way I am. It is a basic question, it is the only question.
The 24 gate is Delphi, the 24 gate is know thyself, nothing else, my story, my story. So the first rule is to know yourself, now most people get stuck here. The second rule of the knower is to know what is knowable and unnecessary to know, you know “I don’t care how they get this space ship up there”, doesn’t make any difference to me. It’s something I could know, if I wanted to study engineering and all of that but I don’t need to know all that. Most knowers are lost in just knowing for the sake of knowing, it relieves the pressure. But there is so much knowing not worth knowing because the only thing worth knowing is who you are, nothing else.
The thinker is alone, they always look like they are shitting in that statue, well it’s true, most people are the most deeply contemplated when they are letting out waste, you know you are opening up for a new experience, what to do, you’re getting all that junk out of you, you know. That’s what the knower wants to do. The knower wants to keep shitting until the head is silent, that’s all, get it all out, get it all out, get it all out… and you can’t do that unless you know what you need to know which is “Who am I” and the nature of knowing is that when the nature of knowing clear mutation is possible. To be what you know. Very difficult! The third rule of the knower is to recognize what is unknowable and leave it alone. I do not know what created all this. I do not care. It is beyond my “can” as a knower to know what is unknowable.
Everything is limited. We are a limited specie. We can only know what we can know and this is the great pain of the 24 is that when they are caught in trying to know the unknowable and they go mad. The 24-61 is loaded with madness. In the pursuit of the unknowable “I have to know”. The moment that you can know what you need to know, the unknowable isn’t important anymore because the unknowable is you. We are aspects of creation and the moment you know what you need to know that mind is liberated, silence. Otherwise it keeps coming back, it keeps returning over and over and over again. The great gate of migraine headaches.
You see, the acoustic part of the brain does not like light. The acoustic mind is not interested in the seduction of light. It’s in a sound world. The movement between the beginning of or the potential of conceptualizing, this 24 gate the return.The nature of the 24 th gate. It's called the return.
And it is the most disturbing of all mental gates. It's annoying as hell. Think about what that return really is. You see, the collective mind is in a staged process: doubt leads to a formula, the formula leads to an opinion, the opinion leads to facts. In other words, there are stages in that, but basically the 24 keeps the individual process stuck. It keeps it stuck because there's nowhere to go, because there is no pattern, there is no way. It's waiting for mutation.
Now, the 24 th gate can be deeply painful. I know 24 people who have told me about their experience as children of having to bang their heads against the wall to stop the noise in their head, to stop an idea or a theme repeating itself endlessly. These are people that have the same dream over, and over, and over, and over, and over again until it drives them absolutely mad.
Every time they have their dream, that dream they're convinced that the great truth is there, and each time they have that dream they go through the same process over, and over, and over, and over, and over, the return, returning, and returning, and returning, and returning, and returning. It's like a stuck record, and, of course, that's what it sounds like in the head. The same thing over, and over, and over again until the magic, if there's magic. The moment of mutation.”
~Ra Uru Hu
@Carizma22 3/5 splenic P, has said yes to sharing this 😍
I love it when I get to be privy to an ‘experiment progress report’ from one of our Locals members.
Wanna celebrate with me? 🥳🤩🙌🏽
This next one is a tale of Carole’s undefined solar plexus adventures, originally posted in a Projector fb group.
Cool witnessing Carole! 🤗
Thread gist in comments (screenshots) and a somewhat messy screen grab video of the video recommended in one of the OP comments she received included below (above?🤓)
And there’s a short video of @BeyondBeautiful and me first talking about “avoiding confront and truth” which includes a story I often have told about John and the very first real time glimpse I saw this undefined solar plexus dealie irl. Can find.
Blew my mind.
I know there are several splenic Authority folks in here, maybe you have stories to share too?
"Some ideas take decades"
This is pretty inspiring. She reckons she's finally finished her apprenticeship at 70 💜
Fun add-on HD irl example - this was shared in Vanessa's group on FB, The Art of Being You by another appreciative group member (thank you Kathrin 🤗), and I first watched it a few hours ago.
I immediately thought what a great share it would be in here 🤩 but it landed pretty quickly on my 'roundtooit list.
Maybe to get shared here, maybe not. Tbh, the hold up was that I didn't really want to share a FB link in here, so I was looking (investigating) around to see if it was on another platform.
Hadn't found it yet.
Then it turns out that @NaimR wasn't able to view it from Canada (someone is blocking it for Canada ? wha?) and she said as much on the thread in Vanessa's group.
And you know what kicks in?
My Design (19/49 and Markets internal in particular), which had me heading this way anyway - at some point ... maybe... but I always get a little boost of focus from ...
There were three roller coasters 🎢 we had on or radar for the last hour before the rides closed.
Wasn’t to be, but we did find this nice place to sit and wait out the deluge that started right after we grabbed a great smoked BBQ supper.
And ooh it cooled everything off perfectly. And gave us some rest before we found our way back to the car (which was parked on the very first row of priority parking 🥳)
Ahhhh nothing to do, so much nothing to do 🥳🥰🍿
This is a post and audio from @BeyondBeautiful - Valerie Montgomery, Self Projected Projector
"I wanted to make this breakfast and found myself rushing.
Now, you might be interested to know I have Alternating Determination, which means I need to do things “One Thing At A Time,” which turns out to be the title of the song I made up to shift the energy of starting to make this breakfast.
I also have an Undefined Root, so it always feels like I need to get rid of the pressure. Also known as feeling rushed to do things.
It would have been lovely to have my cat fix my breakfast, and I had the time, so..
Also being Self Projected my authority comes out through my speaking, or in this case, singing."
Great awareness and share, thank you Valerie! 💜Not sure that's the right title for this, but it's what came out so I'm rolling with it.
This story began in a FB group. Where many of my stories do.
I can't actually remember the thread or how we ended up in messenger, but the reason we did was because 5/1 Projector with Gate 1 on an undefined G center ... had music of hers to share but hasn't been able to share it so far.
Am still waiting to see if the rest of the story gets shared with me.
So she asked me what sort of music I liked and did I want something more abstract (I think it was) or a vocal cover. I chose vocal cover and she picked this one.
I felt it to my core.
Not sure if part of that was related to some of what she'd already (not intentionally) told me ... 5th line folks can take a lot of patience to draw out - that's been my experience so far anyway.
Some feel interesting enough to spend the energy on :) That's true here.
A kind of sidenote to this is that both my Uranus Opposition (40ish yo) and Chiron (50ish yo) charts carry a 3/5 and it feels like, though I'm not a 5th line - I do sort of get ...
Dave Myers
https://www.facebook.com/share/v/1HyKBE9tpm/?mibextid=wwXIfr
Here he is over on TikTok
https://www.tiktok.com/@neutrinoradio?_t=ZT-8u1npsHczms&_r=1
Yesterday, @mellijae shared a graphic from 64Keys and it reminded me that there's a hashtag in here for #theplanets
Here's a direct search link -
https://planetandrea.locals.com/?search=%23theplanets
If you're interested in planetary placements in your chart - those 11 posts are a great place to begin. :)
by Richard Rudd
"There is one big key to understanding Projectors, and it can only be found by looking at the bigger picture.
We know that statistically, Projectors make up 21% of the population. That means that for every five people, more or less, there is one Projector.
Those are interesting numbers, especially when they are considered within the context of how Gene Pools operate.
There is a mysterious circuit within the Bodygraph that is curiously known as the WA. The WA holds the secret to the choreography of all human gene pools.
One day, when these aspects of Human Design are explored in more depth, we will be able to see how groupings of individual designs come together in the same way as cells bind together to create the organs within our bodies.
For those who baulk at the idea that we have no choice, this is frightening stuff.
The WA shows how different human designs are collectively organised and herded together to perform certain functions within the greater body of humanity.
Imagine then, that humanity is a body like your own body. There are only 4 types of cells, each with their own sub-programming.
At one extreme, you have a small amount of ‘rogue’ cells, independent bodies that are designed to operate outside the loop of the mainframe programming. Ironically however, these manifestor cells are just as dependent upon the whole as any other type. They are simply programmed to appear independent.
At the other extreme, you have a tiny percentage of early-warning cells – these unusual cells have no programming of their own but are designed to take accurate readings of any cellular environment they move through.
In every sub-culture you will find a few of these cells reflecting the health of the local environment. Their role is to warn the overall intelligence of the body of any potential disruptions to the organism. They are called reflector cells.
The bulk of the cellular life of the body (91%) is made up of the two most common kinds of cell – generator cells and projector cells.
These 2 types are designed to interlock with each other. The generator cells collectively create the life of the organism. They are pure energy cells buzzing day and night, maintaining and building the whole.
Projector cells are unique. They have no propulsion of their own, so they drift around on the endless energy currents created by the generator cells.
You might imagine how easy it would be for a projector cell to feel that it had no purpose within the body.
However, each projector cell actually has a very specific purpose (some have more than one), but that purpose can only be realised when certain energy cells (generators) dock in with the projector cell to receive instructions.
Since the projector has no propulsion, it is powerless to initiate this process, but has to allow the generator cells to recognise them and dock in within their own timing. This recognition process takes place through a coded lock and key programme built into these 2 types at birth.
In other words, every projector holds multiple keys that fit an enormous array of locks. When a key does not fit a lock it is very obvious!
Through the knowledge of the WA, we know that the basic genetic unit is 5. These human groupings of mainly generators and projectors are also known as ‘Pentas’.
The nuclear family is a family of five.
Statistically, that is four generators and one projector. As an archetype, the role of this fifth projector is to maintain the stability of the 4 generators.
Right, this next part is where it gets spooky, so hang on to your seats and try and stay with me!…
Just as this fifth projector draws together the 4 generators to form a penta, this penta then takes on a life of its own. It also seeks something greater to dock into, and this is known as an OC16.
Pentas (groups of 5 human beings) seek out another projector, known as an alpha. Alpha projectors naturally dock together with three pentas, making 16 people (including the alpha).
The moment you have 16 people together, you actually have the foundation of an entire gene pool, which then continues to grow exponentially.
Right. I am going to stop there. Whether you were able to follow any of that or not, I am trying to make a point – which is that if you are a projector, you are genetically coded to have others (specifically generators) recognise you and approach you.
This is the foundation of the success of humanity as a species. The projector’s role is pivotal for life to be coherently organised.
But there is a great irony to it all for the projector – which is that there is nothing for them to do until they are recognised.
Every projector knows when the key fits. Every cell in their body lights up.
They also know when it only ‘sort of’ fits.
Those are the critical moments for projectors. If the fit is not perfect, they have to smile sweetly and turn away.
So how long does a projector have to wait? Well, forever.
There is a deep secret for projectors going through their deconditioning – that is, waiting itself transforms the cells.
The relief of not trying to make keys fit when they do not want to fit, releases a huge pressure from the projector’s life.
But it is also clear from my own experience of observing projectors that they are not always able to immediately throw away keys that do not fit.
Sometimes those keys may provide their livelihood, and they have to hold on to them until they find the correct keys to replace them. That takes courage – to wait knowing something is wrong and you are powerless to change it.
I have a vast admiration for any projector going through their deconditioning, and I have also learned that I can never move forward in life without the presence of projectors in key roles around me.
Projectors, if you cannot be patient, there is no hope for any of us…"
This is a little outside of my 'care' zone, but can see the things we've trusted faltering.
I think Human Design is here to offer people awareness to be able to weather what would otherwise feel like impossibly stormy times.
Lucky us 🤗
Also, what a cool picture Chaitanya found 😍
- A
"The knowledge was given so that human beings could be equipped to live in an age in which there was nothing they could trust.
This is what the Cross of Planning has brought us. It’s brought us an age of, within reason, trust.
That the trains will run on time, that the electricity will be there, that all of those things will work, that our children will have teachers in their schools, that the garbage will be picked up and on and on and on.
All the things that the Cross of Planning has brought us, the institutionalization of science and the spreading of all kinds of technologies that enhance the potential for the increase in human population, the increase in the potential of the gene pool, the increase in the potential for the unusual, the mutative.
Human Design is not about the time of the Cross of Planning. Human Design knows the plan. It’s not about that at all. It's about bringing the possibility of the richness of life to the next generation.
If the stellar family teaches us anything it’s that even the gods, even the remotest forces in the stream are concerned about the generations and the movement of information.
There are certain stars in the sky that could not exist until other stars had died. The fact that human beings and certain brain functions, elements in our brain, that can only exist after the death of stars, we are so deeply connected to them. We live very close to one. That is our shelter and our light."
- Ra Uru Hu
