[when one chart has a full channel and the other has one gate of that channel - this is called a “compromise”]
𝘓𝘪𝘷𝘪𝘯𝘨 𝘸𝘪𝘵𝘩 𝘤𝘰𝘮𝘱𝘳𝘰𝘮𝘪𝘴𝘦 𝘢𝘴 𝘢 𝘛𝘳𝘶𝘦 𝘚𝘦𝘭𝘧
(Q&A)
Question: I'm going to revisit my question from yesterday about the fact that someone has a difficult aspect with their partner where it's a very difficult compromise of some sort, and puts them into a detriment. I've been thinking about it a lot because I have a lot of these in my life. In the I'Ching it's saying that this is written for the not-self. How do you frame those detriments when you're living from you true identity?
Ra: My comment was that in the context of how the Rave I'Ching came out, obviously, so much of it is about the way in which the not-self would perceive aspects of the line, or the way in which the not-self experiences aspects of the line. Though it wasn't consciously written in that way because it wasn't consciously written, it was just something that happened to me.
But in terms of your question about the compromise that brings out the detriment, that is very difficult. Again, I go back to what I mentioned on my first day of my appreciation of the concept of the petty tyrant. I think this is an essential ingredient. And I think that for each of us in the potential of our destiny, our karma, or whatever it may be to awaken, there are elements that are there to—you don't get a free ride when you wake up. You don't suddenly avoid the things that mechanically are difficulties that we meet in life. The relationship you have in which there is a difficult compromise, where there is a detriment that is pulled out, the fact of the matter is that if you're operating correctly as yourself, that does not have to be the theme that defines the relationship.
It doesn't mean, by the way, that that theme won't be there. But I have a thing about compromises: I just don't go there, because if I go there it leads to so many problems. I have a lot of 40/37s in my life and I'm a 40. Every time I'm with a 40/37 and there is a bargain, I am compromised. There is really very little I can do about it. There's nothing you can do about it. It is the mechanics of it. I've learned that this is an area where I can end up in a situation where I get very, very annoyed. This is what compromises do.
But the fact of the matter is that I have not abandoned my 40/37 relationships at all. The fact is that I've just learned not to attach myself to that zone. If I attach myself to it then it becomes something that is difficult and that difficultness is always an easy way to get to a point where you're annoyed and you don't want to deal with it anymore and the hell with it and so forth and so on.
For me these things are a test. It was my joke when my youngest son was in his terrible twos. It was my joke that if anybody wanted to check and see if they were actually awake, I would leave them for a couple of hours with my son because he's a 3/60, 39/55 so he can really generate quite a wave. The fact is that's what it's like. The awake world is the world mostly of the not-self. The awake world is a mechanical world. The maia is mechanics. And those mechanics are there and there is nothing you can do about it. Most of the people I most love and deeply care about in this life, I have compromises with. They have compromises with me. I meet it a lot. And I have learned to see that this is not a negative.
Again, this is a question of surrender. Surrender drops its moralities—this is good, this is bad. You don't really know. The fact of the matter is I have no business trying to dominate in a place where I'm caught in a compromise. It's not my place to try turn that into an electromagnetic when it's compromise. I can't do anything about that. It is precisely what it is. But if you're accepting and there is choicelessness in our geometry, our fractals, then what to do?
The fact is that you just don't attach yourself personally to the compromise. That's not the kind of comment I would make to a client because, quite frankly, it's a difficult thing to grasp. The fact is you have to be very secure and very deep within your own process to begin to be sensitized to what these things are and learning that in your relationship with this person, the protocol says “don't go there and everything will be ok.” And if you don't go there, everything will be ok. It's their channel anyway.
Compromise and a Bargaining Tool
Question: Ra, in terms of compromise you said that you treat it just like dominance, but isn't there a little bit of a bargaining tool that you can have there. It can be, ok fine, we'll do it your way but I want to sit in the backseat or something.
Ra: Well, but you're not really saying anything different than what I'm saying. In other words, the moment you're not personally attached to being the channel, that's the moment you can step back. Now, you can do it a number of ways. But I don’t think that you're going to be able to successfully try to manipulate your way around it in which you're going to feel like you're not compromising. The fact is that it's there and there is no way around it. I just accept it for what it is and do the best I can. When I'm at my most aware, I never go there at all.
Question: No, that's not what I mean. For example, let's just say compromise with the 8/1. Two people have the 8th gate and one person has the whole channel. Wouldn't the person with the 8th gate who is compromised be able to say, “We're going to do it your way creatively, we're going to take your creative direction, but my contribution is going to be...” and then you have a little say in what your contribution is going to be? As opposed to say dominance which is just like, it's your creative way and that's the way it is.
Ra: Yes, all of that is fine. But the fact of the matter is that after you go through all of that pitch where you say yes, yes we'll do it your way, but I would like to be able—they're just going to do it their way. They don't have any other way to be. It isn't that they won't listen to you or even think, ok, maybe that. But the fact of the matter is they're just going to do it their way. They just will. That's the thing that makes compromise so infuriating. Yes, you can try all those. I've gone through a whole long process of trying to understand this dynamic because for me it's at the very center of the problem of human beings being able to really be comfortable with each other. It lies in compromise.
When I first began to look at compromise I tried to look at it in terms of how to resolve that. I had my “love it or leave it.” I had all of this kind of stuff that I worked my way through in trying to process it myself. In the end I realized that it is like the gods when they give you a gift, they don't give you everything. They give you something. And other things you can't have. If you try to get them, you lose everything. For me it's very clear that in certain relationships, for me compromise is a sign that says “don't ruin this.” That's all. It's so clear to me. That's my perspective. I see compromise and I say, “Don't ruin this. If you go there, it's not worth the trouble.” My hanging gate is there, this is not a relationship where this hanging gate is going to get its opportunities; period. And I leave it alone.
It doesn't mean that everything you are has to integrate in a relationship. Any triple-split will tell you that. You don't have to have it all integrated. I don't have to get stuck in the compromises. I can just see the relationship beyond that. Of course, that really is my point. I don't think the attempt to bargain, the attempt to make a statement from your hanging gate is going to bring anything other than continued whatever, frustration, bitterness, anger, depending on your Type, because the fact is the defined person is going to run that way and there's nothing one can do.
Personality Sun Compromised
Written Question: (about a compromised Personality Sun)
Ra: Yes, when your Personality Sun is compromised it can be very, very difficult. But then again, because it is a matter of choicelessness, it seems to me that if one is correct in one's movement, if you're operating correctly, if your geometry is correct, then you're getting precisely what you need. This is the thing for me. I'm very good at simply just accepting that life is what it is. So, if somebody is going to compromise your Sun, then perhaps that relationship will give you the opportunity to find other aspects of yourself that operate within the relationship that can be so valuable.
A 7/31 Compromise
Written Question: (about a 7/31 compromise)
Ra: In other words, you have the Pluto 7.3, 7.4 and somebody is compromising you. compromise is compromise. Again, my point is that when you see compromise in a relationship what you're looking at is, that is not something that is going to work for you. It's not going to work. And the only thing you can do is surrender to that. For me this is the most basic teaching, because the moment you try to go there, that's the moment you're going to run into dilemmas that you can never resolve; you can never get out of them. They are very, very difficult. This is brick wall.
So, you can try, you can hope they understand that you want to be able to participate, too, and this and that; it doesn't work that way. For me, surrender is when you meet that place in a partner. The not-self tendency, the lack of awareness tendency is to say, “I don't need this in my life.” When I look back at my failed relationships in this life, they were all rooted in places of compromise where suddenly enough was enough and that was it and it was over.
The reality is that what I have learned in all of these years with this knowledge is that compromises in relationships don't bother me anymore. Because I see very clearly that how you connect to somebody else is a limitation. And sometimes there is this aspect of you that really connects with the other; sometimes it's that aspect of them that really connects to you. But the fact that there are areas that do not work simply means that's not an ingredient for the success of that relationship. Stay away from it. You can see how difficult it is for the not-self because for the not-self it seems like that is a torment. It's like “why do I always have to have this, and why does it always have to be this way” and it goes on and on and on.
My point is all about what it is to live correctly because to live correctly, ultimately, can bring you to awareness and surrender. And in surrender, you do not have to identify with those forces, the forces of compromise. And through that, it has allowed me to have relationships with people that, in the past, I never, ever, ever would have had a relationship with. I always would have ended up in that compromise.
This is one of the deepest disadvantages as far as I'm concerned about what Human Design really brings. It brings us the recognition of our helplessness within the actual mechanics. This is just wiring. It's just the way it works. And either you surrender to that and you operate correctly as yourself or you're always going to be banging your head against the wall.”
Thx Laura da Represa & Phillip Redd
@Carizma22 3/5 splenic P, has said yes to sharing this 😍
I love it when I get to be privy to an ‘experiment progress report’ from one of our Locals members.
Wanna celebrate with me? 🥳🤩🙌🏽
This next one is a tale of Carole’s undefined solar plexus adventures, originally posted in a Projector fb group.
Cool witnessing Carole! 🤗
Thread gist in comments (screenshots) and a somewhat messy screen grab video of the video recommended in one of the OP comments she received included below (above?🤓)
And there’s a short video of @BeyondBeautiful and me first talking about “avoiding confront and truth” which includes a story I often have told about John and the very first real time glimpse I saw this undefined solar plexus dealie irl. Can find.
Blew my mind.
I know there are several splenic Authority folks in here, maybe you have stories to share too?
"Some ideas take decades"
This is pretty inspiring. She reckons she's finally finished her apprenticeship at 70 💜
Fun add-on HD irl example - this was shared in Vanessa's group on FB, The Art of Being You by another appreciative group member (thank you Kathrin 🤗), and I first watched it a few hours ago.
I immediately thought what a great share it would be in here 🤩 but it landed pretty quickly on my 'roundtooit list.
Maybe to get shared here, maybe not. Tbh, the hold up was that I didn't really want to share a FB link in here, so I was looking (investigating) around to see if it was on another platform.
Hadn't found it yet.
Then it turns out that @NaimR wasn't able to view it from Canada (someone is blocking it for Canada ? wha?) and she said as much on the thread in Vanessa's group.
And you know what kicks in?
My Design (19/49 and Markets internal in particular), which had me heading this way anyway - at some point ... maybe... but I always get a little boost of focus from ...
There were three roller coasters 🎢 we had on or radar for the last hour before the rides closed.
Wasn’t to be, but we did find this nice place to sit and wait out the deluge that started right after we grabbed a great smoked BBQ supper.
And ooh it cooled everything off perfectly. And gave us some rest before we found our way back to the car (which was parked on the very first row of priority parking 🥳)
Ahhhh nothing to do, so much nothing to do 🥳🥰🍿
This is a post and audio from @BeyondBeautiful - Valerie Montgomery, Self Projected Projector
"I wanted to make this breakfast and found myself rushing.
Now, you might be interested to know I have Alternating Determination, which means I need to do things “One Thing At A Time,” which turns out to be the title of the song I made up to shift the energy of starting to make this breakfast.
I also have an Undefined Root, so it always feels like I need to get rid of the pressure. Also known as feeling rushed to do things.
It would have been lovely to have my cat fix my breakfast, and I had the time, so..
Also being Self Projected my authority comes out through my speaking, or in this case, singing."
Great awareness and share, thank you Valerie! 💜Not sure that's the right title for this, but it's what came out so I'm rolling with it.
This story began in a FB group. Where many of my stories do.
I can't actually remember the thread or how we ended up in messenger, but the reason we did was because 5/1 Projector with Gate 1 on an undefined G center ... had music of hers to share but hasn't been able to share it so far.
Am still waiting to see if the rest of the story gets shared with me.
So she asked me what sort of music I liked and did I want something more abstract (I think it was) or a vocal cover. I chose vocal cover and she picked this one.
I felt it to my core.
Not sure if part of that was related to some of what she'd already (not intentionally) told me ... 5th line folks can take a lot of patience to draw out - that's been my experience so far anyway.
Some feel interesting enough to spend the energy on :) That's true here.
A kind of sidenote to this is that both my Uranus Opposition (40ish yo) and Chiron (50ish yo) charts carry a 3/5 and it feels like, though I'm not a 5th line - I do sort of get ...
Dave Myers
https://www.facebook.com/share/v/1HyKBE9tpm/?mibextid=wwXIfr
Here he is over on TikTok
https://www.tiktok.com/@neutrinoradio?_t=ZT-8u1npsHczms&_r=1
Yesterday, @mellijae shared a graphic from 64Keys and it reminded me that there's a hashtag in here for #theplanets
Here's a direct search link -
https://planetandrea.locals.com/?search=%23theplanets
If you're interested in planetary placements in your chart - those 11 posts are a great place to begin. :)
by Richard Rudd
"There is one big key to understanding Projectors, and it can only be found by looking at the bigger picture.
We know that statistically, Projectors make up 21% of the population. That means that for every five people, more or less, there is one Projector.
Those are interesting numbers, especially when they are considered within the context of how Gene Pools operate.
There is a mysterious circuit within the Bodygraph that is curiously known as the WA. The WA holds the secret to the choreography of all human gene pools.
One day, when these aspects of Human Design are explored in more depth, we will be able to see how groupings of individual designs come together in the same way as cells bind together to create the organs within our bodies.
For those who baulk at the idea that we have no choice, this is frightening stuff.
The WA shows how different human designs are collectively organised and herded together to perform certain functions within the greater body of humanity.
Imagine then, that humanity is a body like your own body. There are only 4 types of cells, each with their own sub-programming.
At one extreme, you have a small amount of ‘rogue’ cells, independent bodies that are designed to operate outside the loop of the mainframe programming. Ironically however, these manifestor cells are just as dependent upon the whole as any other type. They are simply programmed to appear independent.
At the other extreme, you have a tiny percentage of early-warning cells – these unusual cells have no programming of their own but are designed to take accurate readings of any cellular environment they move through.
In every sub-culture you will find a few of these cells reflecting the health of the local environment. Their role is to warn the overall intelligence of the body of any potential disruptions to the organism. They are called reflector cells.
The bulk of the cellular life of the body (91%) is made up of the two most common kinds of cell – generator cells and projector cells.
These 2 types are designed to interlock with each other. The generator cells collectively create the life of the organism. They are pure energy cells buzzing day and night, maintaining and building the whole.
Projector cells are unique. They have no propulsion of their own, so they drift around on the endless energy currents created by the generator cells.
You might imagine how easy it would be for a projector cell to feel that it had no purpose within the body.
However, each projector cell actually has a very specific purpose (some have more than one), but that purpose can only be realised when certain energy cells (generators) dock in with the projector cell to receive instructions.
Since the projector has no propulsion, it is powerless to initiate this process, but has to allow the generator cells to recognise them and dock in within their own timing. This recognition process takes place through a coded lock and key programme built into these 2 types at birth.
In other words, every projector holds multiple keys that fit an enormous array of locks. When a key does not fit a lock it is very obvious!
Through the knowledge of the WA, we know that the basic genetic unit is 5. These human groupings of mainly generators and projectors are also known as ‘Pentas’.
The nuclear family is a family of five.
Statistically, that is four generators and one projector. As an archetype, the role of this fifth projector is to maintain the stability of the 4 generators.
Right, this next part is where it gets spooky, so hang on to your seats and try and stay with me!…
Just as this fifth projector draws together the 4 generators to form a penta, this penta then takes on a life of its own. It also seeks something greater to dock into, and this is known as an OC16.
Pentas (groups of 5 human beings) seek out another projector, known as an alpha. Alpha projectors naturally dock together with three pentas, making 16 people (including the alpha).
The moment you have 16 people together, you actually have the foundation of an entire gene pool, which then continues to grow exponentially.
Right. I am going to stop there. Whether you were able to follow any of that or not, I am trying to make a point – which is that if you are a projector, you are genetically coded to have others (specifically generators) recognise you and approach you.
This is the foundation of the success of humanity as a species. The projector’s role is pivotal for life to be coherently organised.
But there is a great irony to it all for the projector – which is that there is nothing for them to do until they are recognised.
Every projector knows when the key fits. Every cell in their body lights up.
They also know when it only ‘sort of’ fits.
Those are the critical moments for projectors. If the fit is not perfect, they have to smile sweetly and turn away.
So how long does a projector have to wait? Well, forever.
There is a deep secret for projectors going through their deconditioning – that is, waiting itself transforms the cells.
The relief of not trying to make keys fit when they do not want to fit, releases a huge pressure from the projector’s life.
But it is also clear from my own experience of observing projectors that they are not always able to immediately throw away keys that do not fit.
Sometimes those keys may provide their livelihood, and they have to hold on to them until they find the correct keys to replace them. That takes courage – to wait knowing something is wrong and you are powerless to change it.
I have a vast admiration for any projector going through their deconditioning, and I have also learned that I can never move forward in life without the presence of projectors in key roles around me.
Projectors, if you cannot be patient, there is no hope for any of us…"
This is a little outside of my 'care' zone, but can see the things we've trusted faltering.
I think Human Design is here to offer people awareness to be able to weather what would otherwise feel like impossibly stormy times.
Lucky us 🤗
Also, what a cool picture Chaitanya found 😍
- A
"The knowledge was given so that human beings could be equipped to live in an age in which there was nothing they could trust.
This is what the Cross of Planning has brought us. It’s brought us an age of, within reason, trust.
That the trains will run on time, that the electricity will be there, that all of those things will work, that our children will have teachers in their schools, that the garbage will be picked up and on and on and on.
All the things that the Cross of Planning has brought us, the institutionalization of science and the spreading of all kinds of technologies that enhance the potential for the increase in human population, the increase in the potential of the gene pool, the increase in the potential for the unusual, the mutative.
Human Design is not about the time of the Cross of Planning. Human Design knows the plan. It’s not about that at all. It's about bringing the possibility of the richness of life to the next generation.
If the stellar family teaches us anything it’s that even the gods, even the remotest forces in the stream are concerned about the generations and the movement of information.
There are certain stars in the sky that could not exist until other stars had died. The fact that human beings and certain brain functions, elements in our brain, that can only exist after the death of stars, we are so deeply connected to them. We live very close to one. That is our shelter and our light."
- Ra Uru Hu
