This is a post from the VIP projector group - some comments from the original thread in the pictures.
This “Notself” of the defined AND undefined centers is what we begin looking at in our Notself Saturday zooms.
I can add the link to the video Heidi recommended as a comment here 👍🏼
”A gentle reminder: just because something in your chart is defined, does not exempt it from being not-self. Both defined and undefined parts can be not-self. Here’s the main issue: not-self defined aspects of the chart are going to be reliably, and persistently, not-self. The conditioning leads to chronic dysfunction.
Yes, it is easier for the undefined parts to be conditioned, but it would be a mistake to dismiss significant conditioning of a defined center. Most often this happens through trauma and suffering.
A traumatized defined spleen, for example, is often enough associated with food and substance addictions and the like. When an essential aspect of a person like the survival meter, the spleen, has been affected by trauma, it can lead to persistence in mistaking self-damaging behavior as essential for survival. Think alcoholism or opiate addiction. Self-medication becomes the ersatz go-to persistent, reliable solution. The trauma leads to mis-identifying ‘knowing’ what is good for you.
Yes, while the open spleen does not have an immediate, reliable, way of knowing what is bad for you, open centers are sources of lessons to learn that lead to wisdom. And here’s the twist: open centers can learn and evolve understanding. Because they are not reliably persistent in their energy, whatever is malfunctioning often does not become chronic. Fears teach, and open spleens are very familiar with fear. Ironically, the not-self defined spleen can mistake addictive behavior for having fear under control.
The "damaged" defined spleen can keep unhealthy habits going for a lifetime with no intervention.
The one area where the undefined spleen is particularly vulnerable to chronic issues, is the defined spleen of another person. The safety and security of being near the defined spleen is extremely hard to disengage from once an attachment or dependency has evolved. Many a toxic relationship can result from an undefined spleen becoming attached to any spleen, dysfunctional, traumatized, and not-self, or not.
This is why working on the seven-year deconditioning experiment is crucial for all types, and all configurations. Not-self comes in many forms, and the deconditioning process will introduce unique challenges for each and everyone of us, whether we have a certain center defined, or not.”
@Carizma22 3/5 splenic P, has said yes to sharing this 😍
I love it when I get to be privy to an ‘experiment progress report’ from one of our Locals members.
Wanna celebrate with me? 🥳🤩🙌🏽
This next one is a tale of Carole’s undefined solar plexus adventures, originally posted in a Projector fb group.
Cool witnessing Carole! 🤗
Thread gist in comments (screenshots) and a somewhat messy screen grab video of the video recommended in one of the OP comments she received included below (above?🤓)
And there’s a short video of @BeyondBeautiful and me first talking about “avoiding confront and truth” which includes a story I often have told about John and the very first real time glimpse I saw this undefined solar plexus dealie irl. Can find.
Blew my mind.
I know there are several splenic Authority folks in here, maybe you have stories to share too?
"Some ideas take decades"
This is pretty inspiring. She reckons she's finally finished her apprenticeship at 70 💜
Fun add-on HD irl example - this was shared in Vanessa's group on FB, The Art of Being You by another appreciative group member (thank you Kathrin 🤗), and I first watched it a few hours ago.
I immediately thought what a great share it would be in here 🤩 but it landed pretty quickly on my 'roundtooit list.
Maybe to get shared here, maybe not. Tbh, the hold up was that I didn't really want to share a FB link in here, so I was looking (investigating) around to see if it was on another platform.
Hadn't found it yet.
Then it turns out that @NaimR wasn't able to view it from Canada (someone is blocking it for Canada ? wha?) and she said as much on the thread in Vanessa's group.
And you know what kicks in?
My Design (19/49 and Markets internal in particular), which had me heading this way anyway - at some point ... maybe... but I always get a little boost of focus from ...
There were three roller coasters 🎢 we had on or radar for the last hour before the rides closed.
Wasn’t to be, but we did find this nice place to sit and wait out the deluge that started right after we grabbed a great smoked BBQ supper.
And ooh it cooled everything off perfectly. And gave us some rest before we found our way back to the car (which was parked on the very first row of priority parking 🥳)
Ahhhh nothing to do, so much nothing to do 🥳🥰🍿
This is a post and audio from @BeyondBeautiful - Valerie Montgomery, Self Projected Projector
"I wanted to make this breakfast and found myself rushing.
Now, you might be interested to know I have Alternating Determination, which means I need to do things “One Thing At A Time,” which turns out to be the title of the song I made up to shift the energy of starting to make this breakfast.
I also have an Undefined Root, so it always feels like I need to get rid of the pressure. Also known as feeling rushed to do things.
It would have been lovely to have my cat fix my breakfast, and I had the time, so..
Also being Self Projected my authority comes out through my speaking, or in this case, singing."
Great awareness and share, thank you Valerie! 💜Not sure that's the right title for this, but it's what came out so I'm rolling with it.
This story began in a FB group. Where many of my stories do.
I can't actually remember the thread or how we ended up in messenger, but the reason we did was because 5/1 Projector with Gate 1 on an undefined G center ... had music of hers to share but hasn't been able to share it so far.
Am still waiting to see if the rest of the story gets shared with me.
So she asked me what sort of music I liked and did I want something more abstract (I think it was) or a vocal cover. I chose vocal cover and she picked this one.
I felt it to my core.
Not sure if part of that was related to some of what she'd already (not intentionally) told me ... 5th line folks can take a lot of patience to draw out - that's been my experience so far anyway.
Some feel interesting enough to spend the energy on :) That's true here.
A kind of sidenote to this is that both my Uranus Opposition (40ish yo) and Chiron (50ish yo) charts carry a 3/5 and it feels like, though I'm not a 5th line - I do sort of get ...
Dave Myers
https://www.facebook.com/share/v/1HyKBE9tpm/?mibextid=wwXIfr
Here he is over on TikTok
https://www.tiktok.com/@neutrinoradio?_t=ZT-8u1npsHczms&_r=1
Yesterday, @mellijae shared a graphic from 64Keys and it reminded me that there's a hashtag in here for #theplanets
Here's a direct search link -
https://planetandrea.locals.com/?search=%23theplanets
If you're interested in planetary placements in your chart - those 11 posts are a great place to begin. :)
by Richard Rudd
"There is one big key to understanding Projectors, and it can only be found by looking at the bigger picture.
We know that statistically, Projectors make up 21% of the population. That means that for every five people, more or less, there is one Projector.
Those are interesting numbers, especially when they are considered within the context of how Gene Pools operate.
There is a mysterious circuit within the Bodygraph that is curiously known as the WA. The WA holds the secret to the choreography of all human gene pools.
One day, when these aspects of Human Design are explored in more depth, we will be able to see how groupings of individual designs come together in the same way as cells bind together to create the organs within our bodies.
For those who baulk at the idea that we have no choice, this is frightening stuff.
The WA shows how different human designs are collectively organised and herded together to perform certain functions within the greater body of humanity.
Imagine then, that humanity is a body like your own body. There are only 4 types of cells, each with their own sub-programming.
At one extreme, you have a small amount of ‘rogue’ cells, independent bodies that are designed to operate outside the loop of the mainframe programming. Ironically however, these manifestor cells are just as dependent upon the whole as any other type. They are simply programmed to appear independent.
At the other extreme, you have a tiny percentage of early-warning cells – these unusual cells have no programming of their own but are designed to take accurate readings of any cellular environment they move through.
In every sub-culture you will find a few of these cells reflecting the health of the local environment. Their role is to warn the overall intelligence of the body of any potential disruptions to the organism. They are called reflector cells.
The bulk of the cellular life of the body (91%) is made up of the two most common kinds of cell – generator cells and projector cells.
These 2 types are designed to interlock with each other. The generator cells collectively create the life of the organism. They are pure energy cells buzzing day and night, maintaining and building the whole.
Projector cells are unique. They have no propulsion of their own, so they drift around on the endless energy currents created by the generator cells.
You might imagine how easy it would be for a projector cell to feel that it had no purpose within the body.
However, each projector cell actually has a very specific purpose (some have more than one), but that purpose can only be realised when certain energy cells (generators) dock in with the projector cell to receive instructions.
Since the projector has no propulsion, it is powerless to initiate this process, but has to allow the generator cells to recognise them and dock in within their own timing. This recognition process takes place through a coded lock and key programme built into these 2 types at birth.
In other words, every projector holds multiple keys that fit an enormous array of locks. When a key does not fit a lock it is very obvious!
Through the knowledge of the WA, we know that the basic genetic unit is 5. These human groupings of mainly generators and projectors are also known as ‘Pentas’.
The nuclear family is a family of five.
Statistically, that is four generators and one projector. As an archetype, the role of this fifth projector is to maintain the stability of the 4 generators.
Right, this next part is where it gets spooky, so hang on to your seats and try and stay with me!…
Just as this fifth projector draws together the 4 generators to form a penta, this penta then takes on a life of its own. It also seeks something greater to dock into, and this is known as an OC16.
Pentas (groups of 5 human beings) seek out another projector, known as an alpha. Alpha projectors naturally dock together with three pentas, making 16 people (including the alpha).
The moment you have 16 people together, you actually have the foundation of an entire gene pool, which then continues to grow exponentially.
Right. I am going to stop there. Whether you were able to follow any of that or not, I am trying to make a point – which is that if you are a projector, you are genetically coded to have others (specifically generators) recognise you and approach you.
This is the foundation of the success of humanity as a species. The projector’s role is pivotal for life to be coherently organised.
But there is a great irony to it all for the projector – which is that there is nothing for them to do until they are recognised.
Every projector knows when the key fits. Every cell in their body lights up.
They also know when it only ‘sort of’ fits.
Those are the critical moments for projectors. If the fit is not perfect, they have to smile sweetly and turn away.
So how long does a projector have to wait? Well, forever.
There is a deep secret for projectors going through their deconditioning – that is, waiting itself transforms the cells.
The relief of not trying to make keys fit when they do not want to fit, releases a huge pressure from the projector’s life.
But it is also clear from my own experience of observing projectors that they are not always able to immediately throw away keys that do not fit.
Sometimes those keys may provide their livelihood, and they have to hold on to them until they find the correct keys to replace them. That takes courage – to wait knowing something is wrong and you are powerless to change it.
I have a vast admiration for any projector going through their deconditioning, and I have also learned that I can never move forward in life without the presence of projectors in key roles around me.
Projectors, if you cannot be patient, there is no hope for any of us…"
This is a little outside of my 'care' zone, but can see the things we've trusted faltering.
I think Human Design is here to offer people awareness to be able to weather what would otherwise feel like impossibly stormy times.
Lucky us 🤗
Also, what a cool picture Chaitanya found 😍
- A
"The knowledge was given so that human beings could be equipped to live in an age in which there was nothing they could trust.
This is what the Cross of Planning has brought us. It’s brought us an age of, within reason, trust.
That the trains will run on time, that the electricity will be there, that all of those things will work, that our children will have teachers in their schools, that the garbage will be picked up and on and on and on.
All the things that the Cross of Planning has brought us, the institutionalization of science and the spreading of all kinds of technologies that enhance the potential for the increase in human population, the increase in the potential of the gene pool, the increase in the potential for the unusual, the mutative.
Human Design is not about the time of the Cross of Planning. Human Design knows the plan. It’s not about that at all. It's about bringing the possibility of the richness of life to the next generation.
If the stellar family teaches us anything it’s that even the gods, even the remotest forces in the stream are concerned about the generations and the movement of information.
There are certain stars in the sky that could not exist until other stars had died. The fact that human beings and certain brain functions, elements in our brain, that can only exist after the death of stars, we are so deeply connected to them. We live very close to one. That is our shelter and our light."
- Ra Uru Hu
